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Old 06-13-2007, 02:36 AM
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Recommended tags option

Can we have a recommended tags option for users to choose? Some users have no idea what they should enter into the tags field when submitting their url. It will be good if there is a place to show recommended tags for them to use.
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:40 AM
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What should be the base for your recommendation? You´d have to use a case-based reasoning system. I encourage my users to click on the tag cloud link, choose appropriate tags if possible and then click on the back button of their browser. The submit data should still be there.
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:46 AM
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Well, may be there will be something like a keywords suggestion tool that scan the website url to be submitted on the fly and then return the suggested/recommended words to be use for the tags field?
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:53 AM
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As I said, these are very expensive CBR systems. The only inexpensive way to gather the most common words is, as far as I now, IBM Many Eyes (http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/app). But I works only with uploaded text documents.
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:30 AM
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::bump:: This is on my list of items to develop. I don't think it should be that hard. One would grab the page and do a count of words not on an exclusion list. The most frequent words that weren't stop words would be the recommended tags. The main concern with this approach will be load on the server.
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Old 08-03-2008, 06:07 PM
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Yes, actually RSS Importer v. 0.6 already does the same. Unfortunately titles are not the richest nor most accurate source of tags. Oftentimes people write linkbait titles which have little to do with the actual content of the article (though I agree pulling this is better than nothing). Ideally, what I would do is:
1. Scrape the entire page.
2. Parse out all formatting (e.g. HTML).
3. Parse out common words (e.g. a, and, the, but, for, however).
4. Create a count of remaining words and utilize the top five of six most utilized words.
5. Additionally I would probably include a "go list" (similar to the stop list in point 3). This would allow each site to customize a list of terms of interest to their users (in my instance this might include items like microsoft, yahoo, internet, marketing, storage, nas, san, etc.), and these would receive an extra bump up in the tags.
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Old 08-03-2008, 06:47 PM
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The new "fraxi" template is going to have a built in tag auto-suggest feature. It won't be anything advanced though, you just provide a list of about a hundred words to use that might be common on your site and it will fill in suggestions as you type out letters from the defined list. Right now the feature isn't ready just yet, but I think it will be a great success in helping your users find common words for tags.

As for the ability to scan a page contents and post repeated words, this method doesn't seem to do a very good job most of the time. The RSS importer v. 0.6 is a good example of why I don't really think this is something that should be developed any further. It will pick out some common words, but you usually end up with 2/3 the words being irrelevant. Thats why I thought that presenting the user with hand-selected suggested keywords made a lot of sense. You don't force them into only your keywords, but you will lump similar stories together via shared tags more often.

Lastly, if you were to use a robotic means of fetching keywords I would think that meta keywords would make the most sense.
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This is an interesting topic, because I am in a situation of trying to keep a 'best practice' for my tags, as I use tags more like categories. My solution, was to hide the tag inputs from the submitter and as admin enter them in myself. Though, my sites work off Admin approval before being published...
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