site speed is terrible

**wediggcouk** · 05-31-2011, 07:25 PM

I have had pligg installed a long time now and have had problems with speed and even alexa tells me that 90% of other sites are faster and only just tonight I have moved the site to a subdomain rather than get rid of it all as people have used it for a long time now and I have done everything correctly and now placed a temp redirect on the front of http://www.wedigg.co.uk
so it now goes to the new home http://www.bookmarks.wedigg.co.uk/

Loading time has got that bad Im thinking of getting rid of the whole site, tryed using the default template and nothing changes whole site takes forever for me to load it and I have 20MB broadband go knows for someone on dial up.

The new installs do not come with url method code for .httacess file like it says it does,
module images missing aswell

I have just uploaded all the new files and switched over with the correct file structure for the database Im using and still it is all no good and a shame to lose the whole site but its a route im thinking very seriously about as for time now with duplicate posts gone into the system and ranks dropped to no where,

is it time to call it a day with pligg, or can someone help !

**ChuckRoast** · 05-31-2011, 08:01 PM

Think you are jumping the gun a little.
My test shows
Cable Modem 3.2073 seconds

Your main problem is that you though it would be better to change from the default 8 summary stories per page to 30.
You also thought it would be better to change from the last 5 comments to the last 10 comments..
Each time a page is loaded you are multiplying the load on your server by an ungodly amount.

I can only suggest you tone down the site a little.. No one wants to sift through 30 stories on a single page. And clearly your server doesn't want to do that either.

If that's the type of site you want to run, then you should also be aware that as your site grows so should your server requirements.

**wediggcouk** · 05-31-2011, 08:20 PM

I have a dedicated server to which the site is on,

I thought with a cache system it would not be much load doing this ? so you think because I have 30 stories on the front page and 10 comments its to much load ??

if the front page is cache once and does not change for a week surely the cached page should load fine ?

Reduced down to ten stories - No change at all

Number of default comments sidebar is 8 to which I increased to ten,

As a long term user of pligg I have seen the descrease in page loads for some time now
not that Im a programmer or coder but the old user going thru all the motions of upgrade after upgrade
surely has affected my overall site performance.

**Yankidank** · 05-31-2011, 08:56 PM

Cache is only caching template data (the design of the page). The actual content is mostly being pulled from the database every time the page is being loaded. The more content on your page (stories, comments, etc) the more it is querying your database for information which takes a little longer.

If you want to accommodate a huge amount of traffic you should hire a programmer capable of scaling Pligg for those needs. One hack that may improve your sites load times is documented here: http://forums.pligg.com/questions-co...he-system.html

**urbn** · 06-01-2011, 01:23 PM

I am willing to bet its your server and not pligg. I have a very cheap server running several other large sites with my pligg site beiing the largest. It was averaging around 12k - 16k visitors a day, 10k submissions, 100k comments and I have little to zero lag.

After running a few tests on your site was sputting on the on all the files that are request that total to over 400k in files with some of the js files taking forever to load.

Is your Mysql server on a different machine? Where is your DNS located? Where is the server located?

All of these are far more likely to be issues then the database proformance issues.

What I'm trying to get at is this isn't a problem with pligg, its a problem with your setup and use of pligg. So your next step should be to find out why your setup is not working as it should.

I would say your best bet would be to disable all plugins and modules, and revert to the detault theme and go from there to find any problems that might be related to your install.

**wediggcouk** · 06-02-2011, 06:01 AM

Thanks for replies, I have gone from upgrade to upgrade and as I have done so I have noted the speed 100% decrease as I went into the 1.0 side of things all the new layouts, I already scrapped a pligg install and really do not want to lose this one,

My server is fine as other sites load up fine, memberspeed is a very big one I have and this is all fine...

Im gonna try that method you said with the modules as to deactivate them, I should of thought of this one before.

In regard to how much Im loading on a page I have now set it at 10 for everything and on the comment side of things the default is 8,

I have installed pligg before and yes its fine for speed but once I switch to my old database the site is crawling along....

*** Update, I have disabled all the modules and the site has become what I would call normal with no drag on page loading, so one of these modules is slowing the site down

**wediggcouk** · 06-02-2011, 06:24 AM

After Playing with the idea of disabling modules to find the problem one,

I started to activate them again and its coming back to a crawl just with a few essential plugins
Akismet Anti-Spam Module
Submit Antispam Addon
Upload
Xml sitemaps
Spam Trigger

with only these active the site starts to crawl again, beyond this piont Im back to a crawl

**Yankidank** · 06-02-2011, 09:20 AM

Not sure if this will help, but reducing your database size might have a small impact. You can run a few commands to clear out spam and inactive members as documented here: Remove Spam Content and Inactive Members from Your Database | Pligg CMS. Make sure that you backup your database before you try this out.

**urbn** · 06-02-2011, 09:45 AM

When I was testing your site I did notice it was lagging on scriptalicious (a javascript framework like Jquery) which is no longer installed and now your site only takes 1-3 seconds to load, compared to about 10 seconds.

Really when it comes down to it you do not want jquery and scriptalicious both in use on the same site. Not only are they both very big but they are known to not play very well.

Yankidank is right as well, run some queries to see the number of discarded links you have, I'm guessing it's going to be a astupid high number.

**wediggcouk** · 06-03-2011, 02:24 PM

I have not had time to go any further with this,

I left all modules disabled........

I am going to.....
DELETE - all modules that come with my first install as all I have done is gone from one to another and over written them on upgrades and I have noted now aswell the sitemap one is not even working. BAD

My Best Option - re-install all the plugins/modules that come with pligg by default

I will let you know the outcome of what I do...

I must thank you all for your help and the idea of disabling the modules has my site loading fine now
and I will see from the new modules side of things that come with system by default to be compatable and if past that the problem still exists then I will look to muck about with the database from the tutorial.